Comments for Edwin Valero Shows More Dimensions Than One To Stop Antonio DeMarco; Other Saturday Results at http://www.queensberry-rules.com , comment 1 to 37 out of 20 comments http://www.queensberry-rules.com Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:05:41 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2816 I have to admit, Valero did get my attention. His offense was more varied, his combinations sharp, and his defense was... well... I had no idea he had any. El Inca looked very, very good. But I have to remember that De Marco is someone who, really, didn't seem that far past "prospect" status, someone who's definitely a solid fighter, but not someone who's really a major player in the division. I don't mean to take anything away from Valero, but I saw no tactical adjustment from De Marco, no commitment to a set game plan. Those who've said that he looked "lost" are right. And see, he doesn't have enough athleticism to get by without a great gameplan and he basically gave away the advantages he had coming into the fight by crouching and throwing the jab only intermittently. Hell, his height and reach are the best things he's got going for him -- he should use them. But perhaps the one thing about De Marco that stood out to me more than anything was his demeanor going in. Unusually loose for someone in the biggest fight of his young career. What's up with that? I'm still not completely sold on Edwin. I'm no fan of his, but I sure am glad we've got him around, if that makes sense. I wouldn't count out old vet JMM against Edwin, bro. As good as Valero looked, I still think he's cruder than Pacquiao was in his 2nd fight with JMM. And there are still some glaring flaws in Valero's style: chin way up, hands way low, mouth open, lunging. I don't find it hard to imagine Marquez pulling out perhaps one of his last great performance against the Venezuelan dynamo. Personally, I would rather see Valero cut a swath of destruction through the division: Katsidis, Juan Diaz, Soto, then JMM. Then he can head up to 140. - Burbank Baker Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:49:20 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2812 I look at it more like a sign of the impending apocalypse. But you're right -- Cole, I can say, DID do a good job. - Tim Starks Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:45:23 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2811 Yup. Valero's addition makes the division jam-packed. - Tim Starks Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:44:52 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2809 agree with most of the comments here about valero showing us skills we didn't know he had... just wanna add something to this conversation though. referee laurence cole did a good job. i mean, he called the accidental elbow well, separated the clinches in the rare times they happened, gave appropriate warnings, and mostly stayed out of the way. if he's the ref for the pacquiao-clottey fight, things are looking good - severuck Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:19:56 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2793 Tim - I am not sure if Valero rules lightweight as easy as you think, but if Arum is to be believed, Valero will be moving directly to light welterweight. The Venezuelan would be a welcome addition to a division already stacked with guys who can really bang. - JB Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:12:12 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2791 I disagree in a sense. DeMarco stood up to Valero's one-punch power, and I think that proved he has an amazing chin. But Valero really ended Pitalua with one punch, even though he got up and had to be knocked down a couple more times before the finish. In other words: Valero's one-punch power is very, very real. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:46:09 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2790 You mentioned how Valero has nice reflexes and that is right to the point. His movement, although nowhere near to gracefulness, reminds me of Emmanuel Augustus. The biggest difference are the thuds on his left and rights. His power is not the one-punch power you see in a rocky juarez. He has, something similar to pacquiao's, a nice set of power punches in both fists. They also resemble each others ability to dodge punches with the smallest movement and counter with a nice volume of power punches. This is the fight that tests Demarco. Either he uses this loss to improve his craft or allow himself to get overshadowed in his division. - RoWyN Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:21:03 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2786 Right. Valero may -- and I say MAY -- be more powerful with a single punch, but there's not a single other thing he does as well as Pacquiao. Pacquiao is significantly more entertaining in my opinion. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:55:10 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2785 valero does provide the same excitement, and maybe more power than pacquiao. but his skills is much less polished and he does not have pacquiao's speed and superior athleticism. http://www.sportzhypeboxing.com/2010/02/edwin-valero-from-underground-legend-to.html - cesar montano Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:29:03 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2783 DeMarco did look a little lost. I'm with you. There are some valid comparisons between Pacquiao and Valero, but the broadcast team way overdid it. Gus Johnson is increasingly working my nerves. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:10:48 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2782 JB isn't a racist. He's telling the truth. Some Filipinos DO troll around the internet, calling names and taunting and so on and so forth. If you haven't noticed that, I'm not sure what's wrong with your eyes. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:08:18 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2781 Quite the elaborate scenario. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:07:06 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2780 That we would. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:06:25 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2779 I think lightweight is slightly less intriguing for the fact that Valero is so clearly the best guy in the division. Featherweight has more parity. Sorry you got called a racist by some moron. If you want me to delete him, just say the word, but you handled yourself just fine there. People can fuck with me all they want but I don't like people fucking with others who visit this site. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:05:52 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2778 I don't think DeMarco was that psyched out. I just think he couldn't connect on Valero and that made him less likely to throw. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:03:32 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2777 I haven't accused anyone of being on steroids, so I don't see why I should start now. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:02:38 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2776 I'm fine with him cleaning out lightweight. I like it when fighters comprehensively beat everyone in their division before moving up. It doesn't happen much these days. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:01:50 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2775 I'd love to see Valero-Soto, but that fight has been talked about for what seems like forever and it still hasn't happened. I've gotten tired of waiting for it. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:00:32 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2774 As good as Valero looked tonight, I think Pacquiao kills him at any weight. - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:59:38 +0100 http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/edwin-valero-shows-more-dimensions-than-one-to-stop-antonio-demarco-plus-other-saturday-results.html#comment-2773 You ask me the same question every other week, and I answer you every fucking time. You ask me that question again, and you'll be banned. It's clear at this point you're more interested in harassment than being a productive member of society, and I just don't see a need to look at your face/baby face combo any more if you're going to be such a dick. Understood? - Tim Starks Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:46:40 +0100